Descendants of John Burgar (1742-1797)
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Joseph Henry Burgar (1868-1928) - son of Walter Burgar (1834-1897) - son of Joseph Burgar (1794-1854) - son of John Burgar (1742-1797)
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Joseph Henry Burgar was born on 20 Jan 1868 in Camberwell London.16,106 Civil Registration of Births reference is Mar 1868 V 1d p 706 - Camberwell London16
He died in 1928 at Salford Lancashire.16 Civil Registration of Death reference is Mar 1928 V 8d p 464. Aged 59. - Salford Lancashire.16
Joseph Henry Burgar appears in in the 1871 Census living with his parents.
See 1871 Census
For some reason, Joseph Henry, is sent to a school in Liverpool.
See 1881 Census
Most of the inmates came from Middlesex, London. It is possible that this merely
means London in general.
Holy Trinity Industrial School appears to be one of those schools that was set up in the late 1800s to house and to train young children who were orphans or had been abandoned. The intention was to train them for a trade that would enable them to be self-sufficient once they left the Institution. Often these schools had brass bands which made it easy for inmates to join the army as bandsmen. Joseph was a cornet player. I have been told that he died of cancer of the lips. 130
It is possible that Joseph Henry had behavioural problems that resulted in his being sent away from London. Further work is being carried out to find out more about the reasons for Joseph being in Liverpool.
Joseph Henry's daughter, Winnifred (1906-1999), has told us that Joseph lived with Netto
relations in Liverpool while he attended a Choir school attached to the cathedral.130 If this is true, then it throws a different light onto the reasons for him going
to Liverpool. Winnie also said that the family were said to be real mongrels,
with Jewish blood coming from the Netto family. David Netto, one of Rachel
Netto's relatives was in Liverpool at this time.
See details of the Netto Family
Joseph Henry eventually joined the army and served, we are told, in the 6th and 8th Hussars. He was away from home for 4 years during the Boer War. 130
See photo of Joseph Henry in Uniform about 1898.
Joseph Henry Burgar and Elizabeth Grimes were married in 1894 in Curragh Eire.130 Civil Registration of marriage reference is - Curragh Eire.16
See photo of his family in about 1914
Elizabeth Grimes was born in 1872.
She died in 1959 at Newmarket Cambridgeshire.16 Civil Registration of Death reference is Mar 1959 V
1a p 301. Aged 87. - Newmarket Cambridgeshire.16
The Guardian of the 23rd February 1959 states that she died on the 21st February 1959 at Mildenhall, the wife of Joseph Henry Burgar.
Elizabeth was Irish by birth and married Joseph Henry Burgar when he
was stationed in the Curragh. While he was away for 4 years during the Boer
war, she lived with her mother-in-law, Rachel Burgar, in Bells Garden Road, Peckham. 130
i. Walter J
Burgar Dublin, 1895 15th
Hussars, V 282, P 56 Walter J Burgar Dublin,
1895 8th Hussars, V 270, P
132 ii. GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761-1924) has : Robert H Burgar Aldershot,
1896 15th Hussars 282, 56 Robert H Burgar Frimley,
1896 8th Hussars 270, 132 It seems that his father, Joseph Henry Burgar, recorded
the birth in both the registers for the 15th and 8th Hussars Regiments. iii. iv. v. vi.
Joseph Henry Burgar and Elizabeth Grimes had the following children:
Walter J Burgar was born in 1895 in Dublin
GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761-1924) has : Robert
Henry Burgar was born in 1896 in Aldershot Hants.16 Civil Registration of Births reference is Sep 1896
V 2A p 122 - Farnham Hants16
John Arthur Burgar. Amelia Rachel Burgar
was born in 1904 in Prestwick Scotland.16
Civil Registration of Births reference is Mar 1904 V 8d p 436 - Prestwick Scotland16
Walter J Burgar Dublin, 1895 15th Hussars, V 282, P 56
Walter J Burgar Dublin, 1895 8th Hussars, V 270, P 132
GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761-1924) has :
Robert H Burgar Aldershot, 1896 15th Hussars 282, 56
Robert H Burgar Frimley, 1896 8th Hussars 270, 132
It seems that his father, Joseph Henry Burgar, recorded the birth in both the registers for the 15th and 8th Hussars Regiments.
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