Descendants of John Burgar (1742-1797)

Home Page English Burgar How To... John's Home Page Name Index Stories,Photos,Trees

To bottom of page

Fourth Generation

 Joseph Henry Burgar (1868-1928) - son of Walter Burgar (1834-1897) - son of Joseph Burgar (1794-1854) - son of John Burgar (1742-1797)

Go to Parent's page

Joseph Henry Burgar was born on 20 Jan 1868 in Camberwell London.16,106 Civil Registration of Births reference is Mar 1868 V 1d p 706 - Camberwell London16

He died in 1928 at Salford Lancashire.16 Civil Registration of Death reference is Mar 1928 V 8d p 464. Aged 59. - Salford Lancashire.16

Joseph Henry Burgar appears in in the 1871 Census living with his parents.

See 1871 Census

For some reason, Joseph Henry, is sent to a school in Liverpool.

See 1881 Census

Most of the inmates came from Middlesex, London. It is possible that this merely means London in general.

Holy Trinity Industrial School appears to be one of those schools that was set up in the late 1800s to house and to train young children who were orphans or had been abandoned. The intention was to train them for a trade that would enable them to be self-sufficient once they left the Institution. Often these schools had brass bands which made it easy for inmates to join the army as bandsmen.  Joseph was a cornet player.  I have been told that he died of cancer of the lips. 130

It is possible that Joseph Henry had behavioural problems that resulted in his being sent away from London. Further work is being carried out to find out more about the reasons for Joseph being in Liverpool. 

Joseph Henry's daughter, Winnifred (1906-1999), has told us that Joseph lived with Netto relations in Liverpool while he attended a Choir school attached to the cathedral.130  If this is true, then it throws a different light onto the reasons for him going to Liverpool.  Winnie also said that the family were said to be real mongrels, with Jewish blood coming from the Netto family.  David Netto, one of Rachel Netto's relatives was in Liverpool at this time.

See details of the Netto Family 

Joseph Henry eventually joined the army and served, we are told, in the 6th and 8th Hussars. He was away from home for 4 years during the Boer War. 130

See photo of Joseph Henry in Uniform about 1898.

Joseph Henry Burgar and Elizabeth Grimes were married in 1894 in Curragh Eire.130  Civil Registration of marriage reference is - Curragh Eire.16

See photo of his family in about 1914

Elizabeth Grimes was born in 1872.

She died in 1959 at Newmarket Cambridgeshire.16 Civil Registration of Death reference is Mar 1959 V 1a p 301. Aged 87. - Newmarket Cambridgeshire.16

The Guardian of the 23rd February 1959 states that she died on the 21st February 1959 at Mildenhall,  the wife of Joseph Henry Burgar.

Elizabeth was Irish by birth and married Joseph Henry Burgar when he was stationed in the Curragh. While he was away for 4 years during the Boer war, she lived with her mother-in-law, Rachel Burgar, in Bells Garden Road, Peckham. 130

Joseph Henry Burgar and Elizabeth Grimes had the following children:



Walter J Burgar was born in 1895 in Dublin Eire.16   GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761-1924) has :

Walter J Burgar                Dublin,   1895                15th  Hussars,  V 282,  P 56

Walter J Burgar                Dublin,    1895                8th   Hussars,  V 270,  P 132

He died of diptheria in 1907 at Curragh Eire.16  Civil Registration of Death reference is 1907 V ? p ?. - Curragh Eire.16 (Can no longer find the exact reference).



Robert Henry Burgar was born in 1896 in Aldershot Hants.16   Civil Registration of Births reference is Sep 1896 V 2A p 122 - Farnham Hants16 

GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761-1924) has :

Robert H Burgar               Aldershot,  1896             15th  Hussars 282, 56

Robert H Burgar               Frimley,      1896                8th Hussars 270, 132

It seems that his father, Joseph Henry Burgar, recorded the birth in both the registers for the 15th and 8th Hussars Regiments.

He died in 1896 at Aldershot Hants.16 Civil Registration of Death reference is Dec 1896 V 2a p 75. Aged 0. - Farnham Hants.16



Albert Michael Burgar




John Arthur Burgar.




Amelia Rachel Burgar was born in 1904 in Prestwick Scotland.16 Civil Registration of Births reference is Mar 1904 V 8d p 436 - Prestwick Scotland16

She died in a fire at home in 1906 at Salford Lancashire.16,130 Civil Registration of Death reference is Sep 1906 V 89 p 67. Aged 2. - Salford Lancashire.16



Winnifred Burgar.

See descendants for this couple on the family tree for Walter Burgar and Rachael Netto


To top of page